Usually a bullet is just a bullet, until you can’t get them anymore.

During the frenzy of Christmas present opening today a 20 round box of M193 5.56 mm ammo came spilling out of my stocking.  Those rounds are now on 10 round clips sitting in an ammo box until I’m ready to use them.  I also got a really nice Dominican cigar that is now sitting in my humidor.

10 round 5.56 clip

 

20 rounds isn’t even enough to fill a standard AR mag, but with a buying frenzy going on it got me thinking about what gun ban proposals we have coming in the national and state legislatures.  The story of JFK sending his Press Secretary out to buy 1,200 Cuban cigars right before the Cuban Trade Embargo went in to effect also came to mind.

Today was the first time I ever viewed ammo as a commodity rather than just a supply of rounds on hand.

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Looks like the Mayans were right.

There are no 20 or 30 round AR mags to be found for sale on the interwebz.  Everywhere you look…  Gone.  Opportunists seeking to capitalize on “Mayan-Zombie” and/or “Government Thug Confiscator” fearing gun owners have snapped up everything they can.

Mags gone

 

If you don’t mind being gouged on ebay or gunbroker, you too can by a $15 mag for $60;  $50 each if you buy in bulk of 300.

I think I’ll just wait for them to get back in stock at the regular sources and pay something less than the price of a full tank of gas for my truck…

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Attacked and bleeding man prosecuted for defensively displaying handgun

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/dec/12/judge-dismisses-handgun-case-with-1st-successful/

 Arzie Tory was a 48-year-old lawn maintenance employee who arrived at work on July 12, 2011, and was assaulted by a man 19 years younger…

Tory, who said he was experiencing weakness from diabetes, took a punch to the eye and fled to his car, where he pulled out a semi-automatic handgun and warned the other man to stay away, records show.

For brandishing the handgun, Tory, who was bleeding from near his eye, was charged by the Indian River County Sheriff’s Office with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

This is exactly why we need defensive display.  Mr. Tory never should have been prosecuted and forced to fight for his freedom for over a year.

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Patrick J. Charles is FLAT WRONG about Moore v. Madigan supporting May Issue laws

Patrick J. Charles: The Hollow Impact of Moore v. Madigan on Gun Control?

In Kachalsky v. County of Westchester (2d Cir. Nov. 27, 2012) the Second Circuit Court of Appeals found that:

“The proper cause requirement falls outside the core Second Amendment protections identified in Heller.  New York’s licensing scheme affects the ability to carry handguns only in public, while the District of Columbia ban applied in the home “where the need for defense of self,family, and property is most acute.”  (citing Heller, 554 U.S. at 628).

The court in Kachalsky reasoned that:

“This is a critical difference.  The state’s ability to regulate firearms and, for that matter, conduct, is qualitatively different in public than in the home.”

Therefore the “proper cause” requirement was permissible.

In the Moore decision, Judge Posner writing for the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals, chided the Second Circuit’s reasoning in upholding the “proper cause”/may issue provision.

“The New York gun law upheld in Kachalsky, although one of the nation’s most restrictive such laws, … is less restrictive than Illinois’s law. Our principal reservation about the Second Circuit’s analysis is its suggestion that the Second Amendment should have much greater scope inside the home than outside…” Moore v. Madigan (7th Cir. Dec. 11, 2012)

In fact the Seventh Circuit made it clear that while “the need for defense of self, family, and property is most acute” in the home, id. at 3036 (emphasis added); 554 U.S. at 628, but that doesn’t mean it is not acute outside the home.”

The court in fact stated that:

“[A] Chicagoan is a good deal more likely to be attacked on a sidewalk in a rough neighborhood than in his apartment on the 35th floor of the Park Tower.  A woman who is being stalked or has obtained a protective order against a violent ex-husband is more vulnerable to being attacked while walking to or from her home than when inside. She has a stronger self-defense claim to be allowed to carry a gun in public than the resident of a fancy apartment building … has a claim to sleep with a loaded gun under her mattress.” (emphasis added) Moore

Anti-gun commenters, like Patrick Charles, who claim that the decision in Moore supports “May Issue” concealed carry restrictions completely misunderstand what Judge Posner was saying about the Kachalsky case ruling and are flatly wrong in their analysis of the decision.

At least in the Seventh Circuit, May-Issue laws are clearly unconstitutional under Moore.

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OK open carry may bring little change.

Sunday: Oklahoma open carry may bring little change | Tulsa World.

“The new law will allow permit-holders to carry their handguns out in the open. That could lead to more people calling 911 to report a person with a gun, according to law enforcement officials. And more people have been obtaining permits because of attention to the issue.

But, if anecdotal and statistical evidence from other states is any indication, those could be the only big differences in Oklahoma on Thursday, the date the open-carry law goes into effect.”

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Spend half of a Billion dollars to not arrest 5,319 criminals?

Florida’s Law abiding Concealed Carry Licensees are forced to spend approximately $101,000 per unqualified individual that the licensing scheme stops from getting a license to carry.

Criminals do not generally apply for concealed carry licenses.  Time has proved beyond all reasonable argument that he program is not necessary and represents an over half-billion dollar burden that has been placed on those good people who choose to exercise their right to bear arms over the past 25 years in this state.

Only 0.2% of applications are denied due to prior commission of a crime.

Nearly 2/3 of all denials are because of clerical errors in the application, not due to a prohibited individual applying for a license.

Applications Received: 2,311,775 (As of Sep 30 2012)
Applications Denied: 16,052 = 5,319 Due to Criminal History + 10,733 Due to Incomplete Application

Costs:
License & Fingerprint Processing = $117 ($112 as of this year)
Fingerprinting Services = $5 (average)
Passport Sized Photos = $15 (average)
Notary Service = $20 (average)
Training = $75 (average)

Average Cost for a license to exercise a fundamental right: $232 ($227 now)

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Universal Studios just lost my business.

Attacking Mitt Romney’s religion goes too far.

“MORMON MORON ROMNEY”

 

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Can’t get people to support gun bans? Throw money!

Bloomberg vows to donate more than $10 million toward local and national candidates who will focus on gun bans.

via Bloomberg Says Presidential Candidates’ Talk on Gun Control Is ‘Gibberish’ – WNYC.

Mayor Michael "Make it Rain" Bloomberg

Mayor Michael “Make it Rain” Bloomberg

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Florida Carry Executive Member Knife.

Because our Executive and Life members deserve to get a decent knife.

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Florida AG Says Carrying a Gun is Always Presumably a Crime

FL Attorney General Pam Bondi’s position is that anyone carrying a gun should always be presumed to be committing a felony; and apparently, everyone is carrying…

[A]n overwhelming majority of Floridians are not licensed to carry concealed weapons. As of August 31, 2012, the number of concealed weapon or firearm permits issued in Florida is 971,263. Where Florida had an estimated population of 19,057,542 in 2011, the percentage of the population that is licensed to carry a concealed weapon is only five percent (5%). Given the small percentage of the population that is licensed to carry a concealed firearm, the overwhelming majority of firearms, or 95%, are not licensed to be concealed. Thus, an officer’s suspicion that a firearm is not licensed would be reasonable because, in any given case, there would be, statistically speaking, a 95% likelihood of illegality. 
State’s Brief on the Merits, Mackey v. State SC12-573 (Fla 2012) (internal citations omitted, emphasis added)

Obviously, this cannot go without answer.  ”What will be our reply?!” you ask…

It has been said that figures lie and liars figure. This statement has never been more appropriate than in response to the State’s contention that 95% of firearms in Florida are not licensed to be concealed. (State’s brief Pg. 20). Such a statement requires ignoring basic rules of statistics, ignoring the lack of available data, ignoring the fact that there is no requirement to license individual guns in the state (doing so is a felony, See Sec. 790.335, Fla. Stat.), and ignoring the fact that some people own multiple guns.

The State’s argument is that because only 5% of the population of Florida, holds a CWFL there is a 95% likelihood that a person with a firearm is committing a crime. Such a statement relies on several assumptions that are easily dismissed as common sense. In order for the State’s argument to be valid, one would first have to ignore all visitors to our state from the 35 states with reciprocity. One would also have to ignore all of the circumstances where no license is required to possess a firearm. Furthermore, the State’s argument also assumes that every man, woman and minor child is carrying a firearm at all times. Only by ignoring these statistical values and making a ridiculous assumption, could the State validate its absurd statistical argument that 95% of persons carrying firearms are doing so illegally.
Amicus Curiae Florida Carry, inc.’s Brief in Support of Appellant, Mackey v. State SC12-573 (Fla 2012) (emphasis added)

Our Attorney General says that not only do police and prosecutors have reasonable suspicion to frisk you any time you carry in FL, but that carrying also gives probable cause to search and arrest!

Thus, the crime of carrying a concealed weapon is complete upon proof that the defendant knowingly carried a firearm that was concealed from the ordinary sight of another person. Accordingly, as held by the Third District, knowledge of the absence of a concealed weapons permit is not required in order for an officer to conduct an investigatory stop.
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[P]ossession of a firearm did not amount merely reasonable suspicion, but to probable cause. See, e.g., State v. Navarro, 464 So. 2d 137 (Fla. 3d DCA 1985) (holding that a police officer’s observation of a bulge under the clothing of an individual, which the officer in his training and experience determined to be “the outline of a firearm[,] amounted to probable cause to believe that the individual was carrying a concealed weapon, justifying not merely a pat-down, but a search”).
State’s Brief on the Merits, Mackey v. State SC12-573 (Fla 2012) (emphasis added)

Oh, hell no!  Shall not be Infringed!

The rights of Floridians to keep and bear arms are well recognized in the U.S. and Florida Constitutions as well as in Florida general law. To allow detentions and arrests based solely on a person’s possession of a firearm without more, and then to require a person to prove through an affirmative defense that their possession of the firearm was lawful would swallow whole the right. As inconvenient as it might be, the need for enforcement of firearms laws preventing carrying by the unlawful and unskilled, must sometimes give way to the God-given right of the people to both lawfully keep and bear arms, and be free from unreasonable searches and seizures.

The state’s position can be summed up that in order for a citizen to exercise their right under the 2nd Amendment of the United States Constitution and Article I Sec. 8 of the Florida Constitution, the citizen must give up their rights under the Fourth Amendment, to be free from unreasonable search and seizure. According to the Attorney General, persons in possession of a firearm should be presumed to be committing a crime, and should be required to prove before a court of law that their conduct is in fact lawful. Should the Court find in the State’s favor in this case, this would be the first time in American jurisprudence that the exercise of a fundamental individual right has required the abdication of another fundamental right.
Amicus Curiae Florida Carry, inc.’s Brief in Support of Appellant, Mackey v. State SC12-573 (Fla 2012) (emphasis added) 

This is why we need you to Join Florida Carry Now.  Otherwise we can’t continue to do this work.

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Dealing with foreign leaders is like a presidential debate.

In tonight’s debate, there was only one person looking to be of Presidential Caliber.  It was not our President.

If that’s Obama’s “A” game, it’s no wonder the Russians want to see him re-elected.That and his promised “Flexibility” if he never has to face an election again.

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Panther F-Series IWB Review

Last weekend at GRPC 2012, I once again found myself carrying my super slim Springfield XDs .45 ACP.  The Panther Concealment F-Series IWB has become my go-to holster for concealed carry of this gun.

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I’ve said before, the Panther holsters are perhaps the fastest holsters I’ve ever used.  I can also report that they are some of the most comfortable.  Carrying tucked or un-tucked, the gun just vanished.  The F-Series holsters are named for a man named Franklin.  Franklin, like me, likes a lot of cant in his holsters.  I carry somewhere between 4 and 5 o-clock so the extra cant provided by the adjustable talon clip puts the gun exactly where I need it for concealability and a good full firing grip on draw.

Carrying this gun in this holster is secure and desecrate but the holster looses none of the speed and comfort that makes me like their innovative OWB paddle holster so much and recommend it so often.

Who says you can’t get a great holster for $50 or less?

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TSA Under the Gun at #GRPC

Literally

We spent HOURS watching them manually search crippled people in wheelchairs, children in strollers, and large busted women who the naked picture scanner did not work well on. WE WERE FURIOUS!

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Home from GRPC 2012

I’m exhausted and invigorated at the same time.

I was honored to have been asked to speak alongside the great names in the Second Amendment community…  I hope what I said was useful to someone.

When the awards were being given out, I thought there must have been a mistake… I had to ask the person next to me…  ”Did Alan Gottlieb just say MY name?”

This was just a shock!  I just have no words that could possibly properly express the depth of my gratitude.

More post conference info to come after I’ve gotten some sleep.

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FL Supreme Court to Decide – Is Carrying a Gun a Crime Even With a Carry License?

The Fourth Amendment provides that:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

We all know that the police can’t generally just stop and search you when you’re just out in public and minding your own business.  You have a Fourth Amendment right that protects you from such invasions of your privacy.  Unless you are attempting to go in to a secured ”sensitive place”, there must be a reasonable suspicion that you are committing a crime for a police officer to search you.  That is, at least so long as you don’t exercise your Second Amendment right also.

In 1984 the Florida Supreme Court ruled that there can be no assumption that everyone carrying a gun is doing so unlawfully because the legislature intended to exempt carry licensees from the crime carrying a gun.  This made the absence of a license to carry a necessary element of the crime of Concealed Carry.

The Florida high court came to this conclusion by analyzing the statute and applying a general rule regarding exceptions and prepositional phrases.  Most importantly, it said:

A court’s main guide in construing a statute is the legislature’s intent.  Accordingly, general rules of statutory construction, such as the one in Baeumel, are designed to help courts ascertain the intent of the legislature.  As stated above, however, Baeumel is a general rule, and in some cases the placement of a statutory exception is not determinative of the legislature’s purpose regarding a statutory exception.
State v. Robarge (450 So. 2d 855) (internal citations omitted).

Then, in 1987 Florida changed its law to create a statewide licensing system for concealed carry.  This did away with the former law that based the licensing of concealed and unconcealed carry with County Commissions. This was the famous “Shall-Issue” law that made Florida the prototype for concealed carry laws nationwide.  Today nearly 1-million people have current Concealed Carry Licenses under this law.

The problem is that when the law was changed, the legislature didn’t use the general rule of statutory language construction that was used in the previous statute.  This gave prosecutors another bite at the apple.  The courts started to ignore the legislature’s intent and instead, just looked to the technical structure of the updated concealed carry statutes.

Now the courts are saying that anytime you carry a firearm you are committing a crime.  If you have a concealed carry license, that just gives you an “affirmative defense” to the charges. 

Under Florida law, the crime of carrying a concealed firearm is complete upon proof that the defendant knowingly carried a firearm that was concealed from the ordinary sight of another person.

The statutory provision which addresses the licensed carrying of a concealed firearm is contained in a subsection separate and distinct from the provision which prohibits the carrying of a concealed firearm. Thus, the absence of a license is not an element of the crime, but is considered an “exception” to the crime, and proof that a defendant possessed a license to carry a concealed firearm must be raised as an affirmative defense. Mackey v. State, 83 So. 3d 942, 946-947 (Fla. Dist. Ct. App. 3d Dist. 2012)

Obviously this result is not what the legislature intended when it was trying to make carrying easier in 1987.  Regardless, the courts have be skipping the intent analysis done by the Supreme Court in 1984 and are instead misquoting the case by using just a small part of the Robarge decision and citing it completely out of context.

See also State v. Robarge, 450 So. 2d 855 (Fla. 1984) v. Robarge, 450 So. 2d 855 (Fla. 1984) (holding that under rules of statutory construction, if an exception is contained in a clause subsequent to the enactment clause of a statute, the exception is an affirmative defense rather than an element of the offense);
Mackey v. State, 83 So. 3d 942, 946-947 (Fla. Dist. Ct. App. 3d Dist. 2012)

So…  In order for the police to stop and frisk or arrest you, they must first observe facts supporting a reasonable suspicion that a suspect is engaged in criminal activity or have information suggesting the possession of a firearm is unlawful.

Now, under the Mackey decision, any time you exercise your Second Amendment right you are engaged in presumably criminal activity.

Therefore, you can be stopped, searched, and even arrested for carrying a firearm and then be made to present the “affirmative defense” to a judge that you have a valid concealed carry license.

THIS CANNOT STAND!

This Mackey case has been appealed to the Florida Supreme Court (SC12-573).  Florida Carry is filing an Amicus Brief on behalf of the law-abiding gun owners of Florida to reverse this dangerous precedent.

Filing fees, printing costs, and other necessary fees are expensive.
We NEED your support so that we can continue to defend your right to carry.

Please Join Florida Carry or Donate Today.

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Obama Campaign Desecrates American Flag on 9/11 Anniversary

While most Americans were remembering 9/11 yesterday many of us put Old Glory back in its rightful place, flying high for all to see in honor of the fallen.

We know the symbolism of our flag, those of us who honor the men and women who have bleed the ground red fighting under the symbol of our great nation.

RED - Hardiness, Courage, & Valor.
WHITE - Purity and Innocence,
BLUE - Vigilance, Perseverance & Justice.

We were outraged as our Embassy in Egypt was stormed by protesters on 9/11 and our flag was allowed to fall and be desecrated.

Also, on 9/11/2012, the Obama Campaign Website added THIS ABOMINATION on the front page of our Commander-In-Chief’s reelection site.

 

I support equal rights for people who don’t desecrate the flag that I fought under.  I’m fully supportive of equality and free speech.

But some things are sacred to Americans, especially those of us who have fought.

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Complex legal concepts are complex when you simplify them. apparently.

Thankfully the Florida Supreme Court has had some legal education.  Hopefully they will understand their own previous holdings.

Here’s an exchange I had with (another person).

“I see what you are saying. You want the court to view the LACK of a valid CWFL as an element of the crime of CCW under 790.01, as it was under 790.05, rather than as an exception which provides an affirmative defense. This might be difficult, as not only Mackey, but Watt, has affirmed that, due to the construction of 790.01, possession of a valid CWFL is an exception which provides a binding affirmative defense in the case of carrying a concealed weapon. I think that the Supreme Court will decide that, unless some damage is shown to have arisen from this, no change is necessary.

The absurd example I use of an officer kicking down your door to arrest you in your home is exactly the problem that has arisen if both the Mackey and Bethel decisions stand.

However, Mackey’s assertion was that, based upon Regalado, the stop itself was not warranted as the officer had no knowledge that Mackey did not have a valid CWFL. Mackey had no such license, nor was he eligible to obtain one due to his felony record. Whether the possession of a CWFL is an affirmative defense or not is not relevent to Mackey.

 

Actually it is completely relevant. Mackey and Bethel were both not known by the officer to be felons before the search and arrest took place. Had the officer known them to be felons before the search (and therefore not allowed to possess firearms), the searches, and arrests would have been fine. The officers had no such prior knowledge. The subjects were not engaged in any apparent criminal activity other than that they were bearing arms. (Mackey concealed and Bethel unconcealed). Because the officer had no knowledge of their criminal history, he was required to treat them exactly as he is required to treat you or I.

I can see no reason why the Court would reverse Mackey or directly address whether the wording of 790.01 is an exception providing an affirmative defense. I am afraid that you are going to have to wait for a person to get arrested for CCW or CCF while in possession of a valid CWFL to address this subject. Good luck anyway.

 

Until Mackey and/or Bethel is overturned there are nearly 1 million CWFL holders in this state breaking the law every time they carry. Their 4th amendment right is gone because any time an officer sees a bulge they can stop and frisk you. They can legally arrest you and put you in jail until you present your affirmative defense to a judge at arraignment.In fact, because of Norman’s finding that 790.25 is also just an affirmative defense, even police officers on duty are committing the crime of carrying (openly and/or concealed) every time they go to work. As it stands right now, with these cases standing. There is no Right to Bear Arms in this state other than possession of:
(a) A self-defense chemical spray.
(b) A nonlethal stun gun or dart-firing stun gun or other nonlethal electric weapon or device that is designed solely for defensive purposes.

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Carry in your own home? Sure, but you can be arrested for it.

You have a right to keep and bear arms in your own home, right? Sure, just show your deed to the judge after your’re arrested for it.

Imagine that you’ve just arrived at home and walked in to the house.  As usual, you have a holstered handgun on you, but you don’t have it concealed at your own home.  Seconds later a police officer bursts in and arrests you for the gun you are carrying.

That’s ridiculous, right?  You have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms in your own home!  Right?

Here’s what the 4th DCA said about that scenario the day after independence day this year.

“Here, all three criteria were satisfied:
(1) the officer saw the gun from a place he had a lawful right to be, that is, outside of the defendant’s fenced-in yard;
(2) the incriminating nature of the gun was immediately apparent to the officer based on his experience of having seen thousands of handguns; and
(3) the officer had lawful access to the gun because exigent circumstances existed, that is, the need to seize the gun to protect the officers’ safety.
Bethel v. State, 2012 Fla. App. LEXIS 10802 (Fla. Dist. Ct. App. 4th Dist. July 5, 2012)

That’s right, a police officer driving by who sees a gun through the window can crash down your front door and arrest you at gunpoint for having a gun in your own home by claiming that he needed to stop his car, get out, and seize your holstered handgun for his own safety.  After all, it may not have been “your home” and you were carrying openly.

*** Update ***

I need to make it crystal clear that the scenario where an officer kicks in your door to arrest you is hypothetical and that is not what happened to Mr. Bethel.

Bethel deserved jail and hot pursuit in to the curtilage of his home was OK.

The Court however went farther than that.   The situation I lay out for illustrative purposes is completely feasible given this overreaching decision. Making an officer’s sight of a gun an exigent circumstance because they need to seize the gun to protect the officers’ safety is a huge problem.

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Oh, hey, look! I have a blog…

I should write things here from time to time…

The past few weeks have been absolutely ridiculous. When time gets tight the blog is usually the first sacrifice offered on the altar of Chronos.

But there is lots to discuss that has been happening.  Here’s a preview of upcoming topics from what has happened THIS week:

  • The guy who’s gun was taken by police due to a clerical error and they still won’t return it.
  • New FL supreme court case that may allow FL police to continue arresting lawful carriers for printing… “So, you have Concealed Carry License? Show it to the Judge.”
  • The guy who’s guns were surrendered to the Sheriff’s office by a family member and the SO wants a mental health evaluation before returning them.
  • The new FL case that allows police to break down your door and arrest you if they see you with a holstered handgun at your own home.
  • The violent felon who attacked a family in their car and had a gun pulled on him in self-defense…  Guess who is being prosecuted and faces a 3 year mandatory minimum jail sentence for aggravated assault. (Hint: It’s not the violent felon who attacked)
  • Still fighting to remove local anti-gun regulations statewide after a quarter-century of such rules being outlawed.
  • My experience last weekend taking the NRA certified pistol instructor’s course. (The NRA thinks I’m certifiable)
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The Right of the People

The Right Of the People To not be forced to eat pavement just because they choose to Bear Arms for self-defense Should allways Not Be Infringed.

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